Saturday, February 22, 2014

What is a decent Mid-range gaming laptop under 750$?




Brandon


I need a new laptop, and I'm a avid gamer. I have some laptops in mind, but theres just something about each of them that just dont "click" with me. I will be using the laptop pretty much all the time and it will go where I go so I need a laptop that fits me perfectly. I need a laptop because I travel a lot and I like to have something to use when I'm away from home. Im on a real tight budget so I cant go over 750$. I wont be gaming on it all the time, I will also use it for LIGHT video editing. I want to be able to play games like black ops, BF3, Far Cry 3 and GTA4 on medium-high settings. I've been looking at the acer aspire v3 571g 6622 and the acer aspire v3 771g 6622. I like them both, but theres something about them that just dont seem right to me. To me the graphics card and processor matter the most to me I can live with a 15.6 lower resolution screen and lower RAM because it is usually upgradable. So what is your recomendation to me? Please dont say "put in another 100$ to get..... "or "oh there are no gaming laptops for 750$" etc. I cant put in more money and I know there are laptops that can gae for 750$.
Ok thanks!
Remember, good graphics card and processor, I don't care about the RAM or screen res. And I want to play black ops, BF3, Far cry 3, and GTA4 on medium-high settings.
Suggestions?
BYE!



Answer
Neither of the two laptops you are looking at, the Acer Aspire V3-571G-6622 or the Acer Aspire V3-771G-6622 are particularly good choices, because they come with 15.6" 1366x768 and 17.3" 1600x900 displays (respectively). 15.6" 1366x768 and 17.3" 1600x900 displays make things onscreen large, and tend to be low-grade LCD panels with very poor image quality due to low contrast. Displays like these are displays that you should make a point to avoid when it is reasonable to do so.

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Where you've got your priorities set right is the GPU, and where you don't is the processor or display.

Your priorities need to be are in two areas: The GPU, and the display. It's not processor, it's not RAM, it's the GPU and the display that you need to be concerned with first. The differences in these areas are some of the most substantial differences, and are what will affect you most. You want to focus on getting a decent GPU and a decent display at the same time, before you start worrying about other things that make less of a difference.

The display is key, in that once you start getting into price ranges where it's reasonable to get a decent display, you want to try to get a decent display. Displays such as 15.6" 1366x768 and 17.3" 1600x900, as covered above, are not "decent" displays. Displays such as 15.6" 1920x1080 and 17.3" 1920x1080 are great, in that they let you fit a lot onscreen, and in that they tend to be good quality LCD panels with high contrast and solid color reproduction. But the reason you want to try to get a good display isn't just about how good the good displays are, it's also about avoiding something that's pretty bad. And it's also about more than just resolution itself.

The GPU is the primary determining factor for game performance. Usually, gaming is bottlenecked by the GPU before it really even starts to matter what type of CPU or how much memory you have. Things like CPU and RAM are more of "buff" specs than anything else, abused by manufacturers, resellers, and retailers for marketing in order to create a false impression of power and performance on the uneducated customer looking at the wrong things. Really, most CPUs and most amounts of memory that come with most non-completely-entry-level laptops are more than enough for most users. You need to put your focus on what actually matters first, not on what marketing tries to tell you matters.

A GT 645M (for example), is not a terrible GPU, and i3-3210M is not a terrible processor (it's more than enough for much of gaming, despite the marketing aura surrounding it), but a 15.6" 1366x768 display is a "terrible" display. You should be looking to improve upon a display that's pretty bad, before you start trying to improve upon something else that's already pretty good.

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That said, you've got your three best choices for sub-$750 laptops, that come with decent GPUs and decent displays at the same time, right here. All come with faster GPUs and better displays than the Acer V3 models you're looking at.

**HP DV6t** (NVIDIA GT 650M, 15.6" 1920x1080 matte display) - **$687**
- Saved Configuration: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7974296
- Apply the coupon code: NB6382
- This configuration includes four things from the base: The 1920x1080 display, the NVIDIA GT 650M GPU, the 7200RPM HDD, and the CPU bump to the i3-3210M (one of the options that enables the NVIDIA GT 650M configuration option). You can upgrade to the i5-3210M if you feel a need, but don't do so at cost of something more important. The GPU and display are the upgrades that you need to have squared away in your configuration before you start trying to fit any of the other upgrades.
- Windows 7

**Sony Vaio Fit 15** (NVIDIA GT 740M, 15.6" 1920x1080 glossy display) - **$729**
- Configuration page: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SYCTOProcess?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921666564153&categoryId=8198552921644926998
- Select either the i3-3227U or i5-3337U CPU option, in order to enable the NVIDIA GT 740M GPU upgrade.
- Then, scroll down and select the NVIDIA GT 740M GPU upgrade. Take the cheaper option with 1GB of memory, because you aren't really going to see much gain from just another GB of memory on the same GPU, past an amount that's already decent.

**HP Envy 15t** (NVIDIA GT 740M, 15.6" 1920x1080 glossy display) - **$722**
- Saved Configuration: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7972968
- This configuration includes two upgrades from the base: The 1920x1080 display, and the NVIDIA GT 740M. Whatever you change, keep these two things in your configuration.
- Apply the coupon code: SVD8492

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What laptop can I buy locally at Best Buy best for gaming and under $750?




Jordan Wat


Thanks for the help!


Answer
Nothing at Best Buy looks worthwhile. I even opened 50 items hoping to see a dedicated graphics card laptop at under $750. Nothing.
There is the Y series at Lenovo.com that is generally above $750
This MSI laptop at Newegg is pretty good at $700
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152378
MSI CX61 0NF-257US Notebook Intel Core i5 3210M(2.50GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory 750GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GT 645M
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
That's an enhanced GT 640
This Acer at Tigerdirect looks OK at $700 after rebate and $730 at Newegg without rebate

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4978876&CatId=4935
Acer Aspire V3-571G-9686 NX.RZNAA.003 Notebook PC - 3rd Gen Intel Core i7-3632QM 2.2GHz, 6GB RAM, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.6" Display, 2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M, Windows 8 64-bit
And, this 17.3" at BHPhoto out of NYC at $683.58 and $700 at Amazon:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891057-REG/Acer_nx_ryqaa_005_I5_3210M_6GB_DDR3_750GB_HD_Windows_8.html
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-V3-771G-6851-17-3-Inch-Laptop/dp/B009JXK17G
V3-771G-6851 Intel Core i5 3210M Dual-Core 2.5GHz Processor
Internal 6GB of DDR3 RAM Memory
Serial ATA 750GB 5400rpm Hard Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GT640M with 2GB DDR3 VRAM
CineCrystal 17.3" LED-Backlit Display
Widescreen HD+ 1600 x 900 Resolution
Gigabit Ethernet & 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi
Optical Drive, Bluetooth 4.0 & USB 3.0
Multi-in-1 Memory Card Reader
Windows 8 (64-bit) Operating System
They are three nice laptops for the price. Sorry that BestBuy offers almost all Intel Graphics or gets an AMD Hybrid situation going, but the GT 630M laptop I answered about out of Newegg and Amazon seems to be better than anything at Bestbuy for up to $750 that I could find.




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