Friday, November 8, 2013

What is a good gaming laptops to get?

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Angel


I know ASUS and Alienware are supposed to be good, but lately Ive been hearing Alienware is not that great anymore and ASUS certain parts break down pretty fast and their customer service is bad. Are there any good ASUS or Alienwares out now? in the 1,500-1,600 or less range.

Can some people name some good gaming laptops as well as brands, I keep coming across some but then they'll be some sort of error with them.

Memory 8 GB or more with ability to upgrade
Hard drive 750 GB or more
CPU i7 3r d gen.
Graphics Card 2-3 GB or more
Windows
Display 15-17 inch etc.

Although i want a gaming computer i wont be gaming on it much, I just want a gaming computer because they tend to have more memory, and hard drive space etc.

thanks
Thank you both..Alex i had checked that laptop out and i read reviews about freezing and touch pad issues...have you experienced any issues with that? and what yr is your ASUS? are there any others you would recommend?
Also anymore suggestions are appreciated thanks



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The most important factor of a gaming laptop is the graphics processor. The stronger the graphics, the better the gaming unless particularly slowed by the CPU or a ram shortage or other factors.
Video editing needs a lot of ram and a faster CPU. Stronger CPUs and graphics power take more battery power, so if they still have a standard 6 cell lithium ion, a faster laptop has a shorter battery life.
Weight is also a factor in the portability, and many people are more interested in the portability. You get a much more powerful desktop PC with a bigger monitor at the same price as a gaming laptop.
For brand quality and reliability in general, I use the customer survey published annually by PC World magazine. December 2011 is the latest, with this year due out soon.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/laptop_reliability_and_satisfaction_macbooks_rule.html
Although Macbooks are known as more reliable, their price to performance is terrible. They cost a lot for the CPU and graphics performance level, and the OSX operating system has a smaller list of compatible software. Also, Lenovo has 3 product lines; Essential, Ideapad, and Thinkpad. Thinkpads are considered the most robust and best keyboards and have other excellent characteristics, but they do not get high level graphics because they are business systems.

Most laptops have 2 slots for DRAM. 8GB laptops are generally 2x4GB, and that is usually plenty. The graphics ram is more important to be GDDR5 instead of DDR3 type rather than how much ram. The graphics level is important, but the ram can be shared system ram as DDR3 and so having 2 GB dedicated graphics ram is only really good if it is GDDR5 ram. In DDR3, just add it to the system ram.
You can see a reported CPU and graphics score average at this site on two tabs:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

One of the bargains in the industry is the Lenovo Y580 at Lenovo.com, but shipments are now delayed and prices were increased. They were perfect during black friday sale with $900 price on what is now $1,039.20. There are a few left at resellers.
3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3630QM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX660M 2GB GDDR5, backlit keyboard, 15.6" screen in 1080p, 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz, 1TB 5400RPM+16G SSD, Blu-ray/DVD-RW, 6 Cell Li-Polymer, 2x2 wireless, bluetooth, HD CAM, HDMI, and a good set of extra features like one button recovery. You would have to wait for delivery. The only thing some people don't like is the screen has glare of overhead or lights behind you, but it has an extra wide color gamat with more accurate reproduction. In stock at Newegg for $1110 is DVDRW instead of bluray and a 750GB with 16GB acceleration SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834310661

The only manufacturers of laptops selling under their own name is Asus and MSI. Laptops are designed and produced by them and Clevo, Wistron, Quanta, Invertec, and a few other manufacturers all in China. The brands are actually just sales and service and procurement organizations doing selection of keyboards, HDDs, LCDs, and other sub-components made by other companies. Lenovo Thinkpad still has design teams some formerly of IBM and a lab for reliability testing in Japan.

At $1210 is an MSI with similar specs to the Lenovo Y580, but in a 17.3" anti-reflective screen, no SSD, and is DVDRW:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152369
You can see gaming performance here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
If not gaming heavily, there would be no need to spend more as it is mostly only moving up the graphics power. Extra ram over 8+2GB is not very important.
I show the full HD 1920x1080 resolution since you are at the price point to get it.

This is a nice choice at Amazon of a Samsung:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-NP700G7C-T01US-17-3-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0098O6FIU
It's only flaw is bluray and DVD player, but does not show DVD writing. It may have it, but does not state it so probably does not. The color is yellow/orange. The screen is a 17.3" extra bright 400 nit. The HD 7870M is a little better than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M. It has a 1TB HDD. The Samsung brand is a high quality one. It is heavy at 8.4 pounds.

You can browse around, but if you like the color (see it at various sites for sale by google of the model number), and don't miss DVD writing (you can buy an external one), the Samsung is an excellent choice. Just browse around Newegg by looking at laptops sorted by price at 100 per page, and then select at left the i7, and slidebar for 1920x1080, and parameters of GB of ram and HDD. You can also check Amazon, but they are harder to search.

With the article about quality, a site that shows reported CPU and graphics power and another with gaming by GPU and the places to buy being Newegg, Amazon, Tigerdirect, BHPhoto.com
it is just a matter of deciding what suits you.

I'm looking for a laptop, which one should i buy?




Tyler Jord


I need a laptop that i can use for my programming class and daily use. I need to be able take it to school so it can not be too fragile. I'm looking for about $600 if possible. It should be able to handle Steam and some games too. I don't want a mac.


Answer
I worked at IBM+Lenovo for a lot of years in Procurement Engineering. In only a few weeks in Y/A I've answered a lot of laptop questions and take each question as you write it.
No Mac is sensible at $600 and if you prefer a windows system. Mac's are generally the best hardware, but expensive for what you get. To make a choice you start with a couple of things. What size exactly is first. You get the most function and screen size in a 15", but they are much heavier than smaller ones.
Use two information sets:
1) Quality + reliability at the time. This is one good article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/211402/reliability_and_service_laptops.html

Many laptops fail. Many laptops overheat for not enough cooling for the performance.
2) CPU+Graphics performance. I am using http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Decide any must-haves like maybe camera and mic for skype or video broadcast. Some have fingerprint readers or face readers. Which is more important to you, graphics (for gaming) or RAM amount and CPU speed for programming?

Typically, every selling company has one or two units on sale that will usually be the best value from them. At $600 and less including tax, those are probably the best choices.
I think HP/COMPAQ has messed up their quality and support, and overheating issues are all over this board. Acer is a re-label with little R+D. Big issue is time to get it back if sent to them for warranty. Dell USED TO BE excellent. They fell apart in quality and service, raised their prices vs competitors, and I don't think they ever earned respect back. Toshiba is generally good. Lenovo watch ratings by model - feedback important. You can't judge any opinions on a brand. Either their units failed or didn't. PC's are made cheap today. A lot fail; most reasonable to fix.

When about ready to buy within a few days, look hard and fast at what is offered. The deals keep changing. Know in advance about quality and what you want. Write down what you see and compare to another at about the same delivered price. When down to three, come back to this board and give a lot of details if you need advice.
How heavy can it be? Heavier is usually cheaper and more reliable. Bigger is cheaper with the exact same functionality. Get as much DRAM as you can, and the CPU+Graphics cannot be changed like a desktop later. What you buy is it until you buy another system.
Here is a start of a nice system for the price. Now look for better in a decent brand by the charts and surveys $529+tax
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?poid=2000006043
AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M Accelerated Processor, Windows® 7 Home Premium, 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 RAM, 320GB 5400 hard drive, AMD Radeon⢠HD graphics, DVD SuperMulti drive, 1366x768 native screen resolution, LED backlit keyboard, HDMI output, 802.11bgn wireless, Integrated webcam, Premium harman/kardon® speakers, Fusion® X2 Finish in Platinum, 6-cell, 4400 mAH battery,
Customizable: Upgrade to 500GB 7200 rpm drive for $10
Upgrade to Bluetooth and EDR internet for $25
Price $564 plus tax now. Nice for the price. Not a gaming system, but a lot of nice stuff in a decent brand.
decide about battery upgrades or other options.
1 Review is here
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/08/toshiba-satellite-p750d-bt4n22-15-6-inch-notebook-laptop-499-free-sh.html
Now find better at the price. Could not find the weight anywhere easy. Probably almost 6 lbs
PS- Not gaming means not what high end $1200+ gets




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