Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Laptop gurus: Any reason(s) why I SHOULDN'T get this laptop?




Anemone


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834210015

Model
Brand ZT
Model Element S1017i-15
General
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo T5850 2.16G
Screen 15.4" WXGA
Memory Size 4GB DDR2
Hard Disk 250GB
Optical Drive DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
Video Memory 512MB
Communication Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Card slot 1 x Express Card
Weight 5.85 lbs.
CPU
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed T5850(2.16GHz)
CPU FSB 667MHz
CPU L2 Cache 2MB
Chipset
Chipset Intel PM965
Display
Screen Size 15.4"
Wide Screen Support Yes
Display Type Wide XGA
Resolution 1280 x 800
Operating Systems
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
Video Memory Dedicated 512MB
Graphic Type Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD 250GB
HD Interface SATA
Memory
Memory Speed DDR2 667
Memory 4GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Optical Drive Spec Built-in Super-Multi Drive (supports DVD RAM)
Communications
Modem 56K
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
Bluetooth Yes
Ports
Card Slot 1 x Express Card
USB 4
IEEE 1394 1
Video Port 1 x VGA, 1 x S-Video TV-out, 1 x HDMI
Other port 1 x eSATA
Audio Ports Yes
Audio
Audio Realtek ALC888
Speaker Internal Speakers
Input Device
Touchpad Yes
Keyboard Standard
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader SD/MMC/MS/MS-Pro 4-in-1 Card Reader
Webcam 1.3MP
Power
AC Adapter 120-watt AC adapter
Battery 6-cell lithium ion
Physical spec
Weight 5.85 lbs.
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Okay, so I do want a 12 cell battery.. and one reviewer said this only lasts about 2hrs, 30minutes when doing minimal things, but that's alright I think. I have heard there have been reported problems with this series of GFX card, but I'm not too concerned since I'll get the 3yr warranty and regularly make backups of my files. (Plus I still have my old laptop if I need to use it as a backup). I kind of wanted a bigger screen, but this one is alright I think. Before this, I wanted a HP model.

I was looking at the HP Pavilion DV9920US Widescreen notebook.. with these specs:

*17" WXGA+ BrightView LCD Screen
*AMD Turion 64 X2 dual-core TL-60 2.0 GHz, 1MB L2, 1600MHz FSB
*4GB DDR2 memory
*250GB 5400-rpm SATA hard drive
*Win Vista Home Prem 64-bit w/SP1
*LightScribe SuperMulti DVD drv
*802.11a/b/g/Draft-N wireless
*4 USB 2.0; 1 FireWire; 1 S-video
*5-in-1 card reader; bluetooth

Now, I liked that the bus speed was pretty high - 1600MHz FSB... but I think the first model I listed would run faster/better than this one, correct? The most recent model I listed - the HP - had a 3yr accidental warranty for about $480 (From Office Depot).. whereas the first one listed costs about 270 on newegg for 3yrs accidental.

If you're wondering what I want the laptop for: I want it for some gaming. Mostly some older games, but it would be nice if it could run some of the newer games on a low resolution since I have gamer friends. I'd like it to last me a while in college, thus the 3yr warranty and the good GFX card. If you have any questions/suggestions/comments on it, please post them. All constructive comments are welcome. Thanks :)


Edit: The HP had a nVidia 7150 GFX card.
I will be checking back on this tonight/tomorrow morning and noon, so feel free to ask any questions with any advice you may have.
Another question: Is there a significant difference between the 1600MHz bus speed on the HP and the 667MHz bus speed on the first listed laptop? Where would it make a difference?
I don't have a problem with 64 bit, since I've read most of the games I play can be configured to run on it. Plus, 64 bit is probably the wave of the future.
For the record: my old laptop is a Dell D600 Latitude with a 1.4GHz single core intel processor... 1.2GB ram (upgraded 1gig a yr ago, was originally 512). 30GB hard-drive.
The simple answers are okay, but I was hoping for more thought. At least how much of a difference the 1600 bus speed HP would be compared to the 667 of the 1st model.



Answer
If I were you I would hunt down some Maximum PC, PC mag, Computer shopper, consumer report or other tests of this rig. You can buy it beautiful and kicking. But, when it smokes it may as well be a $10 watch when you start to look for their service center. If you find it. Try before you buy and ask questions like what their average and max turn around time is for repairs. Also ask who pays what. Ask about pixel defects. How many before you replace my screen? If you don't like the answers Keep walking. I have worked with computers for 25 years. The company may be perfectly legit and in the good ole computer bad world it may fold the day after it makes your laptop. Also check the better business bureau where their home office or manufacturing plant is. If they have a bad record, there already are other people who have purchased from them who are hot on their trail. Trying to recover their money. Any old engineer with enough money can make a PC it takes lots of money to make a PC that is well designed., especially a laptop. Next do a search for complaints on the company on the net. If you find an abnormally high one don't give them your money. Of course I am not talking about HP,Compaq, Toshiba etc. Although it is god to read everything yu can find on the models you are looking at. Sometimes complaints reach the web quickly sometimes not.. The big timers screw up as well so take nothing for granted.


On the 64 bit subject remember that with Good Ole' Vista NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING I know of in 32 bit will run with it including anything using Active X on the INternet. Here we are 3 or 4 years later and I cannot get Active X for for 64 bit Internet Explorer. Just my ramblings but remember that all Warranties and written with the same words. So be sure it acceptable to you, or you are agreeable to the risks before you buy. My 64 Bit Internet Explorer runs like a demon until it hits something that needs Active X then it keeps trying to load An active X that does not exist I am not sure what Microsoft had in mind but this is the poorest rollout of an OS I have seen since Windows ME. Oh' yeh the hype MIcrosoft has of "Mohave" with a bunch of actors or dummies they found on the street making Vista such a wonderful looking system wonderful is just a word. Those Guys know about as much about Vista as I know about A Fusion reactor I in fact may know more about a reactor than they do Vista. Vista is compatible with nothing but new Microsoft certified software don't expect anything else to work.

Also there is a big difference between processor and Front Side bus Speed . You want both high but the FSB is usually a multiple if the processor speed. If you want to know how fast a computer is get a copy of Sisoft Sandra from the web and compare the two or three you decide on. Simple processor speed means very little in the PC world anymore. ALso remember that laptop processors are made to throttle back when not presented with a challenging job throttles back to 200 Mhz or so to save battery. So be aware if you see a excessively low Processor speed that this may be the case. They must be good at saving battery as well.

What laptop should i buy?




shakinglim


Laptop sugggestions for first time buyer
I need suggestions on what's the best laptop I should buy. This is going to be my first so I need all the help I can get.

my requirements:
Internet surfing
handle office applications
some photo editing - should handle Photoshop well
some games, specifically sims 3
a good webcam and mic
a DVD burner
Preferably on the lighter side: from 10"-13"
fast startup and with at least 2gb ram
has to be Durable!

I'm leaning towards Toshiba cause I heard its really good but i'm also choosing between Dell and HP.. by the way, is gateway good?

need this ASAP
thanks in advance..to anyone who answers my question.. want to buy a laptop before next year comes :)



Answer
You're gonna be hard pressed to find many 10-13" laptops with DVD burners inside, but 2 options come to mind:

Asus UL80vt (this is a 14")
Apple 13" MacBook Pro

Both are PC Mag Editor's Choice. I would go with the Asus between the two, and here's why: http://www.pcmag.com/compare_products/0,1943,,00.asp?sid=1565&a=245591,241226

At base configuration, the Asus' MSRP is $350 cheaper and gets you more than twice the battery, twice the RAM, twice the video memory (graphics card), twice the hard drive space, twice the manufacturer's warranty. The Asus has HDMI- and VGA-out. The Apple has a proprietary port for video out. The Asus has an 8-in-1 card reader (SD, miniSD, MMC, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick, SmartMedia, xD) and the Apple has an SD card reader. Both models have multi-touch touchpads. The apple has a native resolution of 1280x800; the Asus has a native resolution of 1366x768). It's a toss-up comparing benchmarks and weight. The Apple has a few key advantages, though: it has a superior display (color-wise), bluetooth inside, and a backlit keyboard. Note: the comparison link listed above INACCURATELY states that the UL80vt uses an external optical drive. Also misleading is the listed CPU clock speed on the Asus, which is overclocked to 1.73 GHz by default and can reach 2.13 GHz on one core (as seen in a screenshot http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5490233&postcount=238).

The MacBook Pro could be configured to match the Asus' RAM and hard drive, but it would get closer to $1500. Right now on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/UL80Vt-A1-14-Inch-Light-Black-Laptop/dp/B002Q8HK7K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1258590992&sr=8-1) the Asus comes with a free $100 gift card.

I know all of this because I've been seriously considering the Asus.

Engadget recently posted some data (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/laptop-reliability-survey-asus-and-toshiba-win-hp-fails/) showing Asus and Toshiba were at the top of the reliability charts, so if you do decide on Toshiba, you know it's a good decision. However, Toshiba might be bought by Asus soon (http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/16/asus-courting-toshiba-in-bid-to-become-top-3-pc-maker/), in case you care. According to the chart, you might want to stay away from HP. Apple is right in the middle of the pack. The only Dell I would think of considering is the 14z (another 14"), which is very popular right now, but the Asus UL80vt beats it in benchmarks (http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3665). If you want to see the 14z review anyway, it is at (http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3664).




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