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I have passion of programming,gadgets,etc and always learn different languages or discover different things on net,I have also designed few websites of my own at home currently i am an student of engineering of computer science and leve in hostel unfortunately i even dont have any laptop in which i can practice strange but TRUE because my parents believe that laptops will spoil my studies without knowing they themself are spoiling my studies how to make them believe in me
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Has any company developed an external enclosure for a graphics card to circumvent the heat issue?
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Just a thought I had, especially for slimline case PCs.
Is it possible to run power via the PCI-e slot to an external case that has a lot more space and fans around the card to keep the GPU cool and keep it from heating up the rest of the PC components?
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Hello!
This is an interesting question, here's why nobody talks about it:
You want to have it external it must be because it's a big and hot card. If it's big and hot then it's a gaming card, if it's a gaming card, it has a heavy bandwidth. So the concern is finding a cabled interface solution that can keep those 4000 MB/s in bandwidth.
However External PCI-Express does exist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#External_PCI_Express
The concept makes it possible and is mostly used for laptop applications. I have slim PC's myself, and they suffer from the lack of space. But hey: I love small, esthetic looking and silent PC's. But I love games too! So I figured that something was possible and I looked around without finding anything for those home theater PC's. Let's face it: you buy an HTPC for home theaters, not for gaming!
If we take a look at laptops, they also suffer from size and cooling limits and gaming laptops are no match because of their integrated or mobile graphics cards. But laptop owners are often gamers on the move to LAN parties and stuff. So that's where a few manufacturers came up with a solution for them: an external GPU's over the PCI-express bridge for laptops, the ExpressCard. Problem is that the ExpressCard bus is 250MB/s bandwidth, what a bottleneck! But this solution might suit your HTPC/slimline case PC, if you add PCIe ExpressCard Drive Slot expansion interface thingie!
Asus made the XG station, developped a couple of years ago, everybody thought they abandoned the project but I finally saw it in shops. An external graphic card docking case connected over Express Card, with a PCI-Express bus and room for one card taking 2 slots, it has cooling with controls and LED.
Here are some articles on the Asus XG Station:
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=5369
http://hackezkk.blogspot.com/2007/07/asus-introduces-external-graphics-card.html
You got Magma with the ExpressBox, designed for general PCI-express peripherals, warn that you can only use a single width graphics card using a maximum of 55Watt power:
http://www.magma.com/products/pciexpress/expressbox1/index.html
Then AMD made an external slimbox, for laptops again. With a HD 3800 GPU, taking 4GB/s bandwidth over the express bus with its 250MB/s limit :)
Here are some articles about the AMD XGP:
http://ati.amd.com/technology/xgp/index.html
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13737
And what about the MSI Luxium:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/video-boost/msi-luxium-lets-you-add-an-external-graphics-card-to-your-notebook-266364.php
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-2606-view-Msi-luxium-and-RX2600-geminium.html
If you add an Express Card interface on your slim PC you will be able to patch up a big size graphics card. Because of different interface combination and ExpressCard bandwidth it's theoretically impossible to reach the same performances as normally but I'm sure the results will be better than with small sized graphics cards that fit everywhere, I'm thinking of the Geforce 4 I had to settle with in the past... Ew.
Also if you're crazy, Quadro Plex! http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html
I hope this helps!
Hello!
This is an interesting question, here's why nobody talks about it:
You want to have it external it must be because it's a big and hot card. If it's big and hot then it's a gaming card, if it's a gaming card, it has a heavy bandwidth. So the concern is finding a cabled interface solution that can keep those 4000 MB/s in bandwidth.
However External PCI-Express does exist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#External_PCI_Express
The concept makes it possible and is mostly used for laptop applications. I have slim PC's myself, and they suffer from the lack of space. But hey: I love small, esthetic looking and silent PC's. But I love games too! So I figured that something was possible and I looked around without finding anything for those home theater PC's. Let's face it: you buy an HTPC for home theaters, not for gaming!
If we take a look at laptops, they also suffer from size and cooling limits and gaming laptops are no match because of their integrated or mobile graphics cards. But laptop owners are often gamers on the move to LAN parties and stuff. So that's where a few manufacturers came up with a solution for them: an external GPU's over the PCI-express bridge for laptops, the ExpressCard. Problem is that the ExpressCard bus is 250MB/s bandwidth, what a bottleneck! But this solution might suit your HTPC/slimline case PC, if you add PCIe ExpressCard Drive Slot expansion interface thingie!
Asus made the XG station, developped a couple of years ago, everybody thought they abandoned the project but I finally saw it in shops. An external graphic card docking case connected over Express Card, with a PCI-Express bus and room for one card taking 2 slots, it has cooling with controls and LED.
Here are some articles on the Asus XG Station:
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=5369
http://hackezkk.blogspot.com/2007/07/asus-introduces-external-graphics-card.html
You got Magma with the ExpressBox, designed for general PCI-express peripherals, warn that you can only use a single width graphics card using a maximum of 55Watt power:
http://www.magma.com/products/pciexpress/expressbox1/index.html
Then AMD made an external slimbox, for laptops again. With a HD 3800 GPU, taking 4GB/s bandwidth over the express bus with its 250MB/s limit :)
Here are some articles about the AMD XGP:
http://ati.amd.com/technology/xgp/index.html
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13737
And what about the MSI Luxium:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/video-boost/msi-luxium-lets-you-add-an-external-graphics-card-to-your-notebook-266364.php
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-2606-view-Msi-luxium-and-RX2600-geminium.html
If you add an Express Card interface on your slim PC you will be able to patch up a big size graphics card. Because of different interface combination and ExpressCard bandwidth it's theoretically impossible to reach the same performances as normally but I'm sure the results will be better than with small sized graphics cards that fit everywhere, I'm thinking of the Geforce 4 I had to settle with in the past... Ew.
Also if you're crazy, Quadro Plex! http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html
I hope this helps!
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